tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post8199224560528398603..comments2024-03-29T08:47:15.610+00:00Comments on The Jovial Priest: House Rule Wiki UpdateThe Jovial Priesthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00160018433070823408noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post-68637689026480639442011-03-30T18:00:14.178+01:002011-03-30T18:00:14.178+01:00@ migellito - Philotomy certainly should be in the...@ migellito - Philotomy certainly should be in there, I thought he was but can't find currently. Maybe he's been victim of an accidental delete. I would link individually to one or three or ten (if inclined) of his classic pieces of advice as once you get to one you can see all the rest.<br /><br />@ matthew - I hope things settle down in the wiki creation and editing, but if security of links is important to you, then your own blog will be safest. Perhaps the wiki will best serve you as a place to visit and find interesting links in the first place. But go on link to something, and see what happens. Good luckThe Jovial Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00160018433070823408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post-40918289233734973012011-03-30T13:47:11.018+01:002011-03-30T13:47:11.018+01:00@migellito: I actually added a link to "The D...@migellito: I actually added a link to "The Dungeon as a Mythic Underworld" to the "Preparing and Running the Game" page a while ago. Or remove the anchor to the dungeon section and move it up to the "General Advice" section on the same page?Alex Schroederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17104864340940538702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post-49235188062635710212011-03-30T13:44:52.992+01:002011-03-30T13:44:52.992+01:00@Matthew: Whenever I noticed that links have been ...@Matthew: Whenever I noticed that links have been removed, I found one of the following two things:<br /><br />People were editing the list like crazy, overwriting each other's changes. The software tries to merge edits if possible but sometimes edits will conflict and there's nothing to be done about that. I did check the initial edits where this was quite common and added a lot of links back in.<br /><br />Alternatively, I've seen people delete a link in one place only to add it elsewhere (and sometimes they added it elsewhere first before deleting it), so I didn't see much data "lost".<br /><br />Lastly, maybe people are deleting a link because they found a duplicate elsewhere and decided that the other link was better placed.<br /><br />If none of the above, I have some suggestions one the wiki (not something that will be read by all, obviously) on the <a href="http://campaignwiki.org/wiki/LinksToWisdom/Wiki_Maintenance" rel="nofollow">wiki maintenance</a> page.<br /><br />Maybe that page can serve as ground rules or at least as a process suggestion even if they're not always followed?Alex Schroederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17104864340940538702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post-71273373328097367352011-03-30T13:38:53.594+01:002011-03-30T13:38:53.594+01:00It's no problem to rename the wiki. There'...It's no problem to rename the wiki. There's one condition to be met and one drawback to incur, however.<br /><br />The condition is that the name has to be a single word and "TheOSRHouseRulesWiki" looks weird. Right now you can bookmark a link and by default it will be named "Campaign Wiki LinksToWisdom: Monsters" -- what single word would you have instead of LinksToWisdom?<br /><br />Actually, this pushed me to try and use an "unbreakable space" instead of a normal space, and it works! I'm surprised by my own softare, haha. Check it out:<br /><a href="http://campaignwiki.org/wiki/The%C2%A0OSR%C2%A0House%C2%A0Rules%C2%A0Wiki/HomePage" rel="nofollow">Campaign Wiki The OSR House Rules Wiki: HomePage</a>.<br /><br />Ok, the URL looks very ugly, but maybe that's not too important.<br /><br />That brings me to the drawback: We'll loose all the link mojo of the existing links!<br /><br />Then again, I guess we could write redirects for all the existing pages to the new pages on the other wiki. That'd be an effort of maybe twenty minutes at most.<br /><br />So we can have our cake and eat it, too?Alex Schroederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17104864340940538702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post-46618998167943276962011-03-30T13:14:37.878+01:002011-03-30T13:14:37.878+01:00I'm in a quandary. I'm certain http://www....I'm in a quandary. I'm certain http://www.philotomy.com/ should be on the wiki.. but where?migellitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17106614212764056058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post-87385748451142159702011-03-30T05:13:11.235+01:002011-03-30T05:13:11.235+01:00If you look at the "all changes" link on...If you look at the "all changes" link on the Recent Changes wiki page, you can see that some content was being deleted, and it wasn't moved or hasn't reappeared yet. Maybe this is just routine maintenance, or maybe they were screwed up links or something. That said, it'd be nice to have the editorial process clarified so we know what we should add. If we go through the trouble of adding material only to have it deleted, why should I post it there instead of on my own blog where I know it will persist?<br /><br />I'm all for the wiki, by the way. i'd just like to see some more ground rules.Matthew Schmeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11348372645986806502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post-87031573428369595702011-03-30T05:07:16.717+01:002011-03-30T05:07:16.717+01:00I WANT AN S&M OWL! Someone has got to be able...I WANT AN S&M OWL! Someone has got to be able to draw the thing!<br /><br />Or make a plush one.<br /><br />- ArkArkheinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04197738947435750745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post-62262716792248703062011-03-29T23:11:11.533+01:002011-03-29T23:11:11.533+01:00I think I might have inadvertently coined the phra...I think I might have inadvertently coined the phrase Temple of Wisdom in my post on the quest for a logo. I was being figurative but it seems to have taken on a life of its own.Daddy Grognardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05559857164172090739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post-65245341703426194852011-03-29T22:11:29.561+01:002011-03-29T22:11:29.561+01:00That's a concern Matthew. Are links being dele...That's a concern Matthew. Are links being deleted or moved elsewhere? I've certainly been moving links to more appropriate areas but have yet to delete anything. Having looked at the wiki multiple times per day I haven't seen anything permanently go. Has anyone else?<br />If you can remember anything specific, Alex may be able to track it down when and where it was deleted.<br />I hope people will use the Summary area when they edit to explain any change they make.<br />In the end the wiki is open access. It will live or die by that. If someone wants to be malicious and every day delete large chunks of the wiki - it will die. The alternative is a closed wiki where only a select few can 'edit'. If I wanted that I could create the same in my blog over time.<br />Keep us informed of any other deletes you come across. You can post concerns in the comments section of the wiki. Hopefully some one will notice.<br />A Miscellaneous category has some advantages but it could just become a dumping ground. Is there any logical heading that comes to mind within the Moldvay/Cook structure that your links might fit into?<br />It's all very new Matthew, I hope you feel it remains a worthwhile attempt at a democratic OSR project.The Jovial Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00160018433070823408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887410874340004979.post-82875475077737629162011-03-29T21:33:36.533+01:002011-03-29T21:33:36.533+01:00You know, I like the idea of the wiki, but then I&...You know, I like the idea of the wiki, but then I'm looking at the list of recent changes, and I see that entries are being deleted. Can someone explain why links to tables and stuff are being deleted when the links aren't duplicating material that is already linked to? Maybe you need a "Misecellaneous" category for tables and things that don't fit into the categories that already exist.<br /><br />Who is decided what is "appropriate" content? Who is deciding what gets delted and what doesn't? A bit more transparency would go a long way. I haven't added any links yet because the kinds of things I would add are the kinds of things that are getting deleted.<br /><br />Sorry to air this on this post, but I don't see a place on the wiki to pose these questions.Matthew Schmeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11348372645986806502noreply@blogger.com